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Monday, August 21, 2006

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There's an embarrassing amount on that list I haven't read, particularly the ones that are (a) epic fantasy, (b) bloody huge, or (c) both. I think my own introductory picks would be:

The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell, which is a classic first contact tale, and one of the most moving examinations of faith in the genre.

Pacific Edge by Kim Stanley Robinson, which has the tremendous warmth and humanism of Robinson's best work without being as daunting as the Mars trilogy.

Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang. The best modern sf short story collection. (Kelly Link's Magic for Beginners would be the second best.)

Air by Geoff Ryman. Graceful, beautiful, and probably one of the most important sf novels of the decade, with its protagonist Chung Mae standing as one of the most memorable characters.

I'm focusing on the modern genre here, because I think that if you're going to introduce people to sf there's not much point weaning them on John Wyndham and Isaac Asimov. Mind you, these recommendations really have to be tailored for the audience. In some cases I'd start with David Mitchell, in others Tiptree, in others I'd just give them something by Stephen Baxter and let them get on with it.

Wonderful, wonderful post. Started to read it at work and decided I needed to save it until I got home instead so I can just savor it.

First, on your list:

Susanna Clarke is wonderful. I have already preordered her new book coming out in Oct, The Ladies of Grace Adieu and Other Stories, from Bloomsbury. Autographed and with Charles Vess illustrations as well...its a book/comic geek's dream.

I have Game of Thrones that a friend gave me and I simply have to get over my general loathing of series that never seem to end and just read it. Everyone raves about it. Its time.

I also have the Neil Stephenson books from another friend and those too seem daunting because of the length but again I need to just get over it and go for it.

I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't read Farhenhiet 451 but I really need to. Just recently found out what it was about...via a meme of all things...and was instantly intrigued.

As to my list?:

I'd be loathe to ignore my favorite author so I'd have to recommend Stardust by Neil Gaiman as a good fantasy primer.

I think Jack Finney's excellent classic Time and Again is a nice mix of sci fi (time travel) and historical romantic fiction.

Although I've just recently discovered him, Robert Sheckley and his masterful sci fi short stories would be a good start. Lots of twilight zone-ish stuff there and he is widely regarded by the masters as a Master himself.

Patricia A. McKillip's wonderful Riddlemaster of Hed trilogy echoes Lord of the Rings without being derivative and has a great deal of emotional depth. McKillip is magical in her use of language. Her later writing especially is almost lyrical. Ombria in Shadow is one of her latest that I would recommend.

For more of a science fiction bent I would recommend Larry Niven's A World Out of Time. Despite a brief bit of science heavy dialogue early on the story quickly becomes a very interesting adventure story on earth very, very far in the future. It remains one of my favorite science fiction stories.

I look forward to checking out the other lists in the links you posted and hopefully reading other's comments.

Thanks, Victoria! I always appreciate it when bloggers share their expertise in a reading area! I have only read the Bradbury, I have to say. I have really read very little SF/Fantasy, but I have wanted to give it a try, and I have found lots of great suggestions here! I have the Clarke and the Winterson, and I thin I want to give the Baroque Cycle a try too--these books I have heard of--the others are new to me...must go check and see if what I can get over here!!

Glad to see that I'm not alone in liking the Riddle-Master trilogy as both Jay and Jeff in your links above recommended it.

An interesting list, I would wholeheartedly agree with the inclusion of "Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell" - I absolutely fell in love with that book. It really is a stunner.

Oddly, I have never read anything by George R.R. Martin. I keep meaning to, but never get round to it. I think I'll try to change that before the end of the year.

I love lists like this (when they are more than just a list of titles and authors), they always remind me of books I need to explore and lead me onto new ones.

The Neal Stephenson books sound very interesting, will have to add them to my "to read" list also.

Interesting list, and, as you say, no two lists would be the same.

I'd like to suggest a few, though. I was amazed that you didn't include Tolkien's Lord of the Rings -- perhaps you just assume that trilogy.

How about some Connie Willis? (Bellwether is short, and hilarious; Doomsday Book is probably her best, but longer, and mostly very serious)

I would say that Watership Down by Richard Adams, is almost as much of a must read as Tolkien.

Then there are Jack Vance, C. S. Lewis, Patricia McKillip, lots more Le Guin, and, going way back, George MacDonald. I also liked The Speed of Dark by Elizabeth Moon, to mention a book published in this century.

Thanks again.

A bit heavy on the females. Just pointing it out.

You have a much higher opinion of Carey and Kushner than I, though I adore Link and LeGuin. And Ash -- don't get me started on that travesty. :p

Props for the Helprin reccomendation, though. Great unknown work. I'll pick up the Winterson.

Niall - Well I haven't read *any* of your picks...I have to get me some proper science fiction reading done. :-)

Carl - Thanks. :-) I'm desperate to get my hands on Susanna Clarke's collection too. Hopefully an ARC will be coming my way.

>"A bit heavy on the females. Just pointing it out."

Well, actually it's pretty even. In fact a quick count reveals that 8 out of my 14 recommendations were written by men. How exactly is that heavy on the females?

>I was amazed that you didn't include Tolkien's Lord of the Rings -- perhaps you just assume that trilogy.

Martin, I refer you to caveat 3 above. ;-)

I've only read three of the books on your list (if you count Stephenson as one), but it is a very interesting group. I loved Clarke's book--it was so strange and sad and funny. Stephenson is sort of godlike--the Baroque trilogy is stunning. I'm not a huge reader of this genre, but I might add Marion Zimmer Bradley's Avalon books, because I'm a grail geek from long before Dan Brown.

Nice list, some I've never heard of. What about adding something by Neil Gaiman? American Gods was fabulous.

There's so much knowledge out in the blogosphere (of which you have a large share, Victoria!) of fantasy, that I really ought to invite suggestions for modern novels more in the vein of Susannah clarke and Ray Bradbury. It's the 'ordinary fiction with a fantastic twist' that I'm interested in at the moment and would welcome reading suggestions for that category. I'll follow up those you suggest in the above list.

I've read only 5 of the 14 you list, my favourite being China Miéville (tho' I preferred the grittiness of PSS's urban setting to the Scar, and I think Iron Council is better, more political and more relevant, than either of them).

I'm only just at the beginning of the Baroque Cycle, but I'll put a good word in for Cryptonomicon, for readers who prefer a modern-day setting to a historical one. Again, I think it has relevance to the issues we face today, with information property and storage.

Norrell & Strange I found tedious, and in fact I didn't think of it as fantasy at all (tho' the fantastic elements are really a no-brainer), but more as litlove put it, 'ordinary fiction with a twist.' The lists you link to include a lot of magic realism and other fiction I don't know how to classify (eg, Borges, Calvino, Pavic, Gombrowicz, Byatt, Saramago). How does one define "fantastic" or "speculative" anyway? — isn't all fiction in a sense SF?

For SF beginners I'd add Doris Lessing's Marriages Between Zones 3, 4 and 5; or Mara and Dann, which is more earthbound/"ordinary."

I feel ashamed of myself. I have read precisely none of the books on this list and at the same time acknowledge at least half of them as the books I would put on a list of "speculative fiction novels I should read". I do say in my defence that I have actually bought all the books in your list that I think I must read one day - the Stephensons, Helprin, Mieville, Le Guin, Martin, Clark and have read ealrier books by Bradbury, Mieville and Stephenson.

One other "venerable" speculative fiction author whose works I have acquired but have yet to read is Samuel R Delany: someone somewhere once convinced me that his Dhalgren is one of the most important books ever written.

Yay! By chance I'm just starting a copy of The Left Hand of Darkness I picked up second hand a while back :o)

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