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Friday, April 27, 2007

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Go on, then, I'll bite...

"Where is his devastated horror? Or his disbelief? Or his anger? Physical pain alone is unconvincing. Its like he has been expecting to have his finger hacked off in pieces all his life and has already reconciled himself to his loss."

And the 'shock' part that I suggested...? ;-p (Isn't there a strong case to be made that Kit is numb, resigned, divorced from anything he feels, for much of the novel?)

"And would bits of finger really flush?"

Heheh - I suspect not.

"It wasn't the only part of the novel that smacked of over-reaching - you could say, over-acting - either."

Granted. But... the OTT is kinda the point, isn't it?

"Neku mistakenly stabbing Kit's attacker in the ribs in a fit of over-enthusiasm niggled me too, and so I find it interesting that you quoted it as an example of Grimwood's humour."

I don't think you can read it as anything other than slightly tongue-in-cheek, especially given the "sticky" observation at the end. :-D (Incidentally, this was one of the sections Grimwood read aloud at Eastercon, and it got a laugh from the audience).

"I think my real problem has to be this: none of the characters struck me as emotionally realistic. [...] They are endlessly rising to the occasion, as if they're on strings. They're all types, all simulcra of people, and its difficult for me to get past that."

I don't disagree (well, I think you're doing the characterisation of Kit a disservice), but again - I think this is a function of how this type of novel works. (That's not to say that it has to work for *you*, of course ;-)). And it's partly a deconstruction of how this type of novel works; Kit can rise to the occasion, or at least convincingly bluff the occasion, when facing down gangsters etc., but he's a trainwreck when it comes to 'real' interaction, as is evidenced by both his past with Mary and his rather brusque treatment of Neku in the present. He can get by; he can't live.

I'm with Vicky on this one.

"But it feels just a little arbitrary to me. As though Grimwood, who is so clearly aligned as a genre writer, woke up one day with a great idea for a story set in the near-future about love and loss and delusion. And then proceeded to shoe-horn a determinedly SF element in because, well, that's what he does."

Exactly how I felt about it - like he wanted to write a literary thriller, but couldn't quite will himself to totally shake off his sf roots. I still maintain that "EotWB" isn't actually an sf novel at all.

Nic: "I don't think you can read it as anything other than slightly tongue-in-cheek, especially given the "sticky" observation at the end. :-D (Incidentally, this was one of the sections Grimwood read aloud at Eastercon, and it got a laugh from the audience)."

I remember thinking at the time how completely differently the prose comes across when Grimwood reads it himself - especially with that quietly debonair voice of his. When he reads aloud, the humour is obvious; but he can't duplicate that with words on the page alone.

Oh, and as regards Grimwood favourites: "Lucifer's Dragon" FTW! ;)

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