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Saturday, June 16, 2007

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I dropped your link as a comment to the original spat article and recommended that the author pop over here if he thought blogs only allowed for bitesize, illiterate commentary.

There is more on the matter of yammering, books, blogs etc here on my husband's blog:
http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2007/06/for_book_bloggi.html
and I have written a piece which will appear tomorrow (18th June) on the Guardian book blog.
Yammerers of the world, unite!

"the anonyminity of modern life, the increasingly inpersonal nature of our human transactions ... the loss of intimacy and, concurrently, of basic emotional literacy"

If I don't accept this as an accurate charaterisation of modern life, is the book still reading?

... you may want to insert a "worth" into that comment.

>'If I don't accept this as an accurate charaterisation of modern life, is the book still worth reading?'

Well, that really depends on whether you have to agree with every book you read...;-)

But, yes, of course its still worth reading! It has a lot to recommend it aside from the obvious - it's funny, for one, and O'Flynn does a good line in the characterisation of children (which I always find interesting). And I think there is something in the way of hope to be had from it; O'Flynn isn't on a complete downer vis-a-vis contemporary society. Certainly she doesn't suggest there has been a decline from a 'golden age'; she recognises that modern convenience has its pros and cons. You should give it a try. :-)

It's not a question of disagreeing with it so much as finding it ridiculous -- which danger comes with making generalised statements about "modern life" rather than statments about specific individuals or groups. If you're going to do the former, I think you really have to ramp it up to Ballardian levels for it to work. Still, maybe I'll give it a go at some point.

Very surprised and pleased that my incandescent ratings about supercilious references to 'yammerings' can be described as 'reason comment'!

This book has been on my to-be-read list for a while and after your review I shall have to promote it to bought-and-sitting-in-the-to-be-read pile, hopefully soon after that moving to the read-and-enjoyed shelves.

"It's not a question of disagreeing with it so much as finding it ridiculous -- which danger comes with making generalised statements about "modern life" rather than statments about specific individuals or groups. If you're going to do the former, I think you really have to ramp it up to Ballardian levels for it to work."

Careful now, these comments were made as part of a long, detailed and finely worded review of the novel. They do not appear in the novel itself. What does appear in the novel is a story about the connected lives of specific (fictional) people, centred on the themes of love and loss. There are also several anonymous voices which do certainly engender an atmosphere of dislocation, but again these are character vignettes. It's probably not wrong to say that the novel presents a world in which things appear to have gone a bit awry, but fundamentally it does this through extremely powerful characterisation and a gripping story, not through "generalised statements".

Curiously, when the book was featured as the Five Live Book of the Month (March), one of the reviewers commented that it did indeed inhabit Ballard's territory, but did it better. A bold claim, but you have to read the book to see if you agree.

Peter: whether or not the book characterises modern life as increasingly impersonal, loss of emotional literacy, blah blah, through explicit statements, or whether it does it by presenting a set of characters who experience variations on the same malaise doesn't much matter to me; your description still makes it sound like the book is a shallow generalisation of the real world and the people in it. Clearly, I haven't read it, and could be wrong, but everything in the review and in your comment rings alarm bells.

It's possible that we will disagree on the matter of whether modern life is rubbish in this way, but I'm not alone in thinking that the book is very far from shallow.

Sorry to yammer on. I'll give you an example of how it is not shallow.

The first third or so of the book is the story of Kate, ten-ish year old girl. We get to know her intensely. Readers and reviewers have spoken of falling in love with her. Then she disappears off the face of the earth.

Occassionally children go missing in the real world. There's a sad case of one at the moment. Sometimes they turn up, sometimes they don't, and sometimes we find their bodies. What we never get in the media reports is a deep sense of these children as real people, as individuals, with their own lives and thoughts and ambitions: it's always such a cheap stereotype of lost innocence, or nothing at all. O'Flynn deliberately set out to give her missing child a real and powerful life, and we really feel the loss when Kate goes. We the readers feel it because we know her, more so than the people charged with trying to find her at the time. This is all the opposite of shallow, whatever your view about modern life.

It also happens to be very very funny.

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