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Thursday, November 08, 2007

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Nic,

Anthony Everitt's _Cicero: The Life and Times of Rome's Greatest Politician_ is a good recent biography. Cicero is an interesting chap, and I thought you caught quite well some of what we think we know of his character. He was a tireless self promoter, and in addition to what you discuss, was quite anxious to be awarded a Victory after governing a province in Asia Minor (alas, I can't remember which province). He got his Victory but more for political reasons than for excellence in leading armies in battle.

I believe the Catiline conspiracy was actually quite dangerous, and Cicero's actions, which did indeed stretch the law, seem to be inspired by a genuine desire to preserve the Republic. Sulla's marches on Rome were fairly recent, after all. The Social War wasn't that long ago, either. For that matter, there was another conspiracy -- the so-called First Catiline Conspiracy, though it is unknown whether Catiline was a part of it -- a few years earlier. I think most historians believe Cicero deserves real credit for suppressing the conspiracy as Consul.

I like Cicero. Though vain, he was, as you say, a novus homos, and rose into an entrenched class through his own merits. His desire to preserve the ways of the Old Republic were heartfelt, though of course we should note the Republic, though it had some Democratic forms, was designed to preserve the perogatives of the higher classes. His relationship with Caesar in interesting. He liked him but feared him at the same time, and it seems clear that Caesar greatly respected Cicero. Certainly Caesar cut Circero quite a bit of slack, though that's partly due to Caesar's policy of being magnanimous with opponents. It was unfortunate that Cicero's thoughts about the young Octavius were made known to the boy; perhaps he would have escaped proscription otherwise, but that's just speculation.

And as you say, Cicero had streaks of both cowardice and bravery. Ultimately, I think his desire to do what he thought was right prevailed. Do check out the Everitt biography. It's highly readable and does a good job of placing Cicero in the context of his times.

Oh, one more thing: Cicero's depiction in the HBO series Rome is a pleasure. Although that series necessarily plays fast and loose with many facts, it's a joy to watch, and its characterizations of the historical figures are wonderful. Marc Antony is captured very well, too.

I have absolutely nothing intelligent to say about Cicero...but I can join Trent in a chorus of: Yay Rome! I love the HBO series. :-)

I have the same fascination with the great men of this period, Caesar especially. I have rarely read a piece of history as compelling as his Gallic Wars - despite being well aware it was in large part personal propaganda. This is a great review, thank you, and has pretty much guaranteed an addition to the shelves.

Trent: Thanks for the recommendation. I didn't realise (or had forgotten) Cicero had got a triumph out of his time in Cilicia, although I noticed that he starts calling himself 'General' in his letters around that time, which I found rather endearing.

As to Catiline's conspiracy, I suspect some of my scepticism about its seriousness comes from the fact that the two major places I've read of it are a) Cicero's own self-justifying account(s), and b) Sallust's rather lurid and OTT narrative. Clearly I need to read something more temperate to convince me. (Also, point taken about the memory of Sulla etc. - I could see it *seeming* critical).

I haven't seen much of the second season of _Rome_ yet, but I echo your and Vicky's enthusiasm for the portrayal of Cicero. It made me smile that David 'Mr Collins' Bamber got the role - the two characters have a number of shared traits, albeit with extremely different levels of intelligence. :-)

Eloise: Thanks for the Caesar recommendation, I'd been wondering what to read!

Nic,

It's been a bit since I've read any Cicero or anything about Cicero, but if I remember a-right, the Romans at the time gave Cicero a lot of credit for his actions to suppress the Catiline conspiracy. Later, of course, they was used against him, but he wasn't too damaged about it. Anyway, the Republic was already in the process of unraveling for lots of reasons, not the least of which was the growing influence of military leaders because of the wide use of men from the lower classes who did not have a stake, necessarily, in the preservation of the old order. The Senate was often niggardly about paying the army, and rank and file came to see their leaders as the ones who took care of them, and not the state. The actions of Sulla, the Social War which required more men, the occasional extension in times of crisis of the terms of governors -- all seem to have contributed to the weakening of the Republic. Circero was fighting against some serious trends.

(I thought Cicero was awarded the lesser celebration for his actions in Cilicia -- a Victory instead of a Triumph -- but I may be mis-remembering.)

I originally got into the history because of my fascination with Catullus. Cicero was involved in cases that touched upon Catullus -- he accused Clodia Metelli (Lesbia) of murdering her husband and sleeping with her brother. I don't believe there was much real evidence, but Cicero didn't always allow such trivialities to get in the way of accusations.

As Eloise says, Caesar's writing on the Gallic Wars (and on the Civil War) is a great read; he was admired for his plain style by many, including Cicero. Adrian Goldsworthy's Caesar, published in 2006, is a momumental biography -- it's very good.

I wrote you a comment, but I think the Internet ated it ...

Tony: Nooo they be takin mah comments! Tell me at the BSFA instead? :-)

Does anyone know if there are other letter from Cicero to Trebonius or from T. to Cicero and where I can find them?

Correspondence from Trebonius to Cicero may be found in Cicero: Letters to Friends. This is a Penguin Classic, although I am not sure if it is still in print. All Cicero's letters were published by Penguin but they run to three very large volumes (especially Letters to Atticus). Well worth browsing though if you want to get a real idea of Cicero's multi-faceted personality. I've always thought the selection of Letters in the volume to which Nicola refers is rather an arbitrary collection.

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