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Tuesday, January 11, 2011

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And yet, beyond their roles and their lives in society, beyond the women, something else, something more powerful made itself felt. A feeling known only to men.

I have to say, I was expecting the next sentence to take a different approach. Fandom has corrupted me.

Thank God I am not the only person who hated this book. The arrogant solipsism (solipsistic arrogance?) is unendurable.

I wasn't very persuaded by the fairy tale of Henrik's parents, either, but at that point I was hoping that its mythologization would be exposed later on.


Interesting - I read it a few years ago, and don't remember any of the frustrations you describe - what I remember were those astounding hunting scenes - at least I hope I'm thinking of the right book. :))

"And yet, beyond their roles and their lives in society, beyond the women, something else, something more powerful made itself felt. A feeling known only to men."
- these disturbing lines I don't remember at all - maybe I blocked them out! But I'm wondering (hoping) if it couldn't be a question of translation - that perhaps the Hungarian has a range of words for 'friendship' which we just don't have in English??

I read this when it was first published to much acclaim and it left me feeling...nothing. It wasn't bad, but I couldn't see what all the fuss was about. I thought I was the only one.

Seems like so many people who read this have a problem with the attitudes and behaviour of the protagonists. They may be bad people, the author may be a bad person: is it a good book? Sounds like it. Plus, you never know what social attitudes get lost in translation ...

Abigail:

Yeah, my mind did wander in a slightly slashy direction at times...

coffeeandink:

Thanks for that link, and agreed.

Jo:

Translation may be an issue - IIRC this was translated from Hungarian into German and then from German into English.

Amusingly, I don't remember the hunting scenes. :-) (Although I imagine there are some, given the milieu.)

pstjmack:

"is it a good book?" - no, I don't think so, for the reasons set out above. When a narrative is so closely focused on its protagonist's attitudes - when those attitudes comprise the entire thematic core and every emotional note of the novel - a reader's assessment of the content and presentation of those attitudes will inevitably play a very large part his or her opinion of the book. I found my early enjoyment of the prose and the atmosphere driven out by the relentless pounding on the central theme of self-absorbed passion. Melodrama piles on melodrama, to the point where the book *is* nothing else.

(It's not that I hate melodrama, or struggle to translate cultural differences - I'm reading and enjoying Aeschylus right now, after all! - more that the novel never sold me on the urgency or weight of this particular melodrama.)

But if you read it, your mileage may vary; that's the joy of reading!

I'm interested to read this review, because Embers was recommended by Michael Dirda in his excellent book Bound to Please, and so far his recommendations have been 100% great for me. I wonder what I'll think of this one! His review -- and the quotations he chooses -- give a quite different tone from yours, focusing on a world that is passing away and the wisdom to be gathered from self-knowledge.

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